masterslaving

31 Mar 2025 - 31 Mar 2025
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    • Alias: master-slave dialectic
    • Another one of those mental patterns or dynamics. I don't actually know if this has anything to do with Hegel. But this incessant mental rivalry.
    • Hegel's discussion of the dialectic of the Master and Slave is an attempt to show that asymmetric recognitive relations are metaphysically defective, that the norms they institute aren't the right kind to help us think and act with—to make it possible for us to think and act. Asymmetric recognition in this way is authority without responsibility, on the side of the Master, and responsibility without authority, on the side of the Slave.
      • – Robert Brandom
      • Makes me think of the RAW /Discordian maxim, "true communication is only possible between equals".
      • How many Hegelian concepts make it into pop lyrics?
    • Sublation

    • Actually Aufhebung which is untranslatable it sounds like.
      • the term Aufhebung has the apparently contradictory implications of both preserving and changing, and eventually advancement (the German verb aufheben means "to cancel", "to keep" and "to pick up").
    • Sublation is the motor by which the dialectic functions.
    • Sublation can be seen at work at the most basic level of Hegel's system of logic. The two concepts Being and Nothing are each both preserved and changed through sublation in the concept Becoming. Similarly, in the Science of Logic (Doctrine of Beingdeterminateness, or quality, and magnitude, or quantity, are each both preserved and sublated in the concept measure.
    • Yeah I don't know, this seems to presume a kind of algebraic formality to concepts that they don't actually have. All of these concepts are squishy, language-dependent ways for people to convey a variety of things.
    • Or maybe not, maybe there is some abstract concept of Magnitude that is language and culture independent. Kind of makes sense.